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3 Things That Attractive Women Hate About Most Single Men

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I want a relationship that is a blend of two people. This is one bitter man posting hate and getting attention.

This is a site about collective wisdom coming from different people of all ages and backgrounds and from all over the world. If feminists wanted true equality they would let MRA discuss things. I am considered more soft hearted and sensitive than most men as The Sound Of Music is my favourite Movie lol TRUE ; however, I rather stay single than be loved for my money and swim through the waves of drama and conditions laid down by the opposite sex.

Why Do Women Hate Men?

I know you say most men are marriage-minded underneath but they seem much less interested in getting into a stable, committed relationship than women do, and seem to drag their heels. Surely these things apply to men just as much as women? Do men actually ENJOY the endless tedium and stress of going on a string of disappointing dates? Your insights would be much appreciated. I particularly love your list of what sucks about being single. As a guy who was single for 35 years, I completely agree and think that — all things remaining equal — having a good relationship is a far superior state of being than being alone. This does not mean that I look down on single people or think you should be in an unsatisfying relationship so, please, spare me the complaints. Funny, but probably not the entire picture. I agree that women have outlandishly unrealistic expectations for love and relationships. So what in the world do we do about this? I was asked a question by a woman about why SHE thinks women hate being single more than men. All I did was theorize a few reasons why and ask readers for their opinions. I never claimed to do research. So, please, learn to offer an opinion without being insulting. You could have said your experience of being single is different from the OP and cited a link to a study confirming that. Instead you insulted me, talked about propaganda, and insinuated that I was an MRA as if this is some systematic patriarchal effort to keep women down by forcing untrue stereotypes on them. None of that is true. I gave my opinion. I think it has merits. Many others did as well. If you feel otherwise, communicate like an adult. You are mostly dead-on accurate. I am a successful entrepreneur in my twenties, but I essentially owe that success to setting aside my desires for a long-term relationship. I would not say that I am blissfully single, but I would say that I found a way to be content, essentially through what you describe, and I had no idea I was doing it. My strong relationships with male friends, the satisfaction of my work, and the freedom I have to go and do whatever I want to do whenever I want to do it give me the confidence to never panic for lack of a mate. I cringe at the thought of women trying to change me or take over my life right now, but I would gladly take a pleasant companion along for the adventure if she could be equally confident in me and herself. My ex and I divorced about 17 years ago. I was and have always have been a very involved dad. The courts and my exwife treated me not much better than a sperm donor. It was very painful but thousands of dollars later I still had my rights to my kid and more time than every other weekend, but not much more. I really loved being a dad and i thought of remarrying and having more kids but when i realized how easy it was for women to walk out for no real reason and distance me from my kid I was too afraid to risk it again. I also was paying child support to a woman who made twice what I was making. Then, when dating, i was usually the one shelling out although I have met some very nice women who were very fair about that. Then I could go home and turn on the TV and listen to women scream about equal rights and how sexist men are. I decided i would pass on the relationship thing for awhile because i have met very few women who really value men and masculinity these days. I also do not like women trying to change me. I am fine just the way I am. If they are unhappy then they can change themselves. I also am tired of woemn jumping back and forth between being modern and being traditional. They are modern when it comes to making money and they are traditional when it comes to shelling out. Also, they do not mind divorce courts reinforcing those old gender assignments when they are awarded primary residence for the child. I do not necessarily like being single more than married but at least I can be me. So then why do men get in relationships at all? Also, the men who want regular sex every week usually want to get married or stay in relationships. But men do have careers; plus women only want to marry men with careers and jobs; but then women complain when men work too much and ignore them. A woman can keep a man by looking pretty, getting pregnant, sharing career interests, being a good cook, or being really good in bed. Men have careers, hobbies, and sports to distract them. Are you just looking for a gaybff who wants to go shopping and spend 24-7 with his girlfriend? My single friends over 40 are far happier than the married ones. But I see men this age who are single pretty miserable, to be honest. Reality is that even if they enjoy being single most of their friends are married so that male companionship they want is harder to come by. My experience is different. Most of the men I know are happier being single than the women I know, especially those who no longer have kids at home, or close by, and even more so for those who never had children. Logic alone will tell you the truth in this matter. Look at the magazine covers. When a man and woman have a day off from work, and they fill it with watching daytime TV, what are they likely to watch? A woman will likely watch SOAPs, and talk shows. Women watch movies that focus on relationships. We affectionately call them Chick Flicks. The SciFi channel hired a woman to be the CEO with the expectation that she would make changes that would attract female viewers. The result is that most men I know now refer to it as the Space Opera channel. The name was also changed to the Syfy Channel. Compare the original Battlestar Galactica to the newer iteration. The newer one is a mess compared to the original. Most men I know will still watch some new science fiction but the really hate it when the relationships start resembling Days of Our Lives, as happened in the new Battlestar Galactica, And finally, how many dating coaches are there who specialize in helping men compared to those specializing in helping women? This is not to say that all men are happy being single nor all women miserable. I think everybody is happier in a relationship if it is a good relationship, but most people chase after things that have nothing to do with what will actually make them happy. A 45 year-old man may think that a 22 year old is what will make him happy, but the reality will likely not match his expectations. A woman may think that a man with lot of money will make her happy, but she may rethink that when he is on his 3rd affair. What are you willing to do to do the same in return? How are you willing to show me? Also, often self reporting is used. The funny thing about self reporting is highly suspect. For instance, there was a study done using self reporting where highly accomplished people did not report self esteem levels as high as convicts did. Also, other suspect data may be used, and incorrectly interpreted, such as time to get remarried after divorce. Women tend to take a little longer. It would be wrong to assume that they like being single more. There are many other reasons they take longer, and being the parent with custody is at the top of the list. Harder to find a new mate when you are not as free to come and go as you please. And I know men who say that being able to stay in the same house with their kids factors very highly into their decision not to be the one to file. Here are some articles on psychologytoday. I explained this before. And finally, there is a reason that shows that focus on relationships are called Chick Flicks. Like it or not, we do care more about being in a relationship, and I feel no shame over it. I see being OK with being a loner, a masculine trait and not one I want to emulate. It sickens me when women think they have to out man the men. Not everything about men is a desirable trait. Your problem is that you equate this with power. Well you go ahead and keep focusing on power. I will not, because power is not the magic key to a happy relationship. The women I know who are the most obsessed with power are also the least happy. Always complaining about something. Not what I want to emulate. U r offering advice, if someone disagrees, offer your view, or go read white papers and research findings! Perfect exampl of what u r trying to tell women and men. Attacking is ineffe communicatio if u r actually trying to genuinel relate to others. From my understanding of what you said, it appears spot on! Yes, lack of sex in my book is grounds for divorce. For me the only difference between a male aquantence and a female aquantence is, the posability of having sex with her. Other than that one point, the guys and girls are pretty much the same to me, certainly different but, valued equally. Still, until death or inability, great SEX will be an endless quest. They keep throwing around the word equality and that they dont need a man but in fact Women crave more attention than men, evidence? Check which gender posts more pictures and personal updates on Facebook more. Women surround themselves with all this male attention in order to not feel lonely or unwanted by men. I had a similar attitude when I sent the link to one of my girlfriends. But just by reading the link, she came out strongly accusing me of being mischievous. I thought it was a very insightful piece and I read it to add to what I already know. I will tear them down and embarrass you. I found plently of studies that find the opposite of what you are claiming. You are the minority opinion here. Therefore, the burden of proof is on you. Provide a study or a legitimate argument. With women we just have to hope the timing is perfect, which maybe has a ten percent success rate. These guys play on their terms, not yours and are a total waste of time to any woman trying to forge something real and lasting. I recently dated this woman for four months when completely out of the blue she dumped me the week before she was introducing me to her parents. I am much happier now than I was when married. Many men feel the same way. Marriage is no longer worth the risk. Want that to change? The simple reason is that although women still have a massive role for men to play, the role sucks and is nothing to be enthusiastic about. Not to mention the increasing risks associated with relationships and the uncertain future as things are not getting any better for guys. Ever rising divorce rates and women mostly initiating divorce. Men feel more secure about their lives and future being single, they have more control over their lives that way. Bossiness and abuse is rife. If you want a partner ok, if you want a cook, slave, baby maker, taxi driver, maid, sperm deposit or side chick, then stay single. What woman grows up to aspire to that scenario. Our grandmothers in years past, put up With patriarchy and misogyny. Make 200+ a year. Global job, good looks, in shape, Benz. No reason to ever think about giving up 50%+ of what I worked — and took huge risks for. Had plenty of sex in my life at this point. If they were still single by the age of 23 or 25, then society would assume he is a homosexual, or something worse. Men have everything to lose and almost nothing to gain. So no surprise men are not excited by the prospect. Women have used the government to gain complete legal dominance and power over men and this is now starting to hit home… yet their reaction will always be to double down, as they see themselves as eternal victims when nothing could be further from the truth. This is what a divorce attorney recently told me so I assume that they know what they are talking about although it was at a party. This is particularly true if they have worked 10 years or more. However whoever has the children more and if she was a stay at home mom in general unless she is psycho and there are psycho moms particularly in Florida lots of pill poppers and anorexics children know their stay-at-home moms better. That being said, there are many exceptions and kids may want to be with their dad because they DO things with them because at times it is hard for MANY men to talk to their kids. They can talk about sports. I usually watch movies or Netflix. I get the NYT, the New Yorker and the Atlantic like my parents before me. I grew up with an older brother and all my cousins were guys that lived near me. I have many guy friends because in high school and college I hung around with both. Now I have daughters and they are mostly like me because they got exposure to work and possibilities outside the female domain. My last long term relationship was with someone who was not present but lived closed to me and I had my kids and my ex husband lived very far away from us. He was a really good person but had substance abuse problems that went away for years then came back and destroyed him. He was a good father and teacher to the girls. I know some of them and their pics are very old like almost 10 years old! I read their bios and the are FOS. I am happy being single now that I have made friends in a friendlier and busier town close to my old town but not as stuck up. There are more single people here of all ages and I work our of my house and never feel lonely. I never thought I would say that since I have generally always had a boyfriend. The longest break I took was when my ex went crazy and I did not date for 3 years. I caution women on match There are men that do not know how to be in a relationship and just want someone to out to eat with or hike with and see at night or maybe take vacations with, They are not relationship material even if they say that they are and even propose. They will always find an excuse and you will see them on Match bullshitting about how they like almonds paired with cabernet who says that? I know it can be done but I think that that window is gone. With Instagram and all else, digitalized pics it seems that some men are more into porn that real women. The way women respond to this is to have boob jobs even when elderly so they can get a man. Why am I on this site now? I just got an email from Evan about this topic and am waiting to go to a dance class and then thought I would comment. I would love to meet a guy I could talk to about world affairs and sports and have a discussion about these things. This is how I grew up and the last long term relationship started out that way but then the guy is not relationship material. All the guys I worked with told me that. So I wasted a lot of time but we did have good times and traveled. I think that is what that movie with Jack Nicholson was about…. I had no idea why since it never happened in my own extended family. The men were happier retired. If you want children or failed to take the measures to prevent them, you have a responsibility for them. Legally, this money is for the benefit of the children, not for the benefit of your ex-wife. I know many, many men who love being in a relationship, and love being married. Prior to her marrying her husband, she owned a million dollar house that sits right on the edge of a golf course. They owned a business that was worth a lot of money. They were married for a couple decades. Are you guys really serious in saying that it was wrong for her to get 50% of the assets of the marriage? The same could be said about her. She could be upset that he got 50% of the assets, and she could be greedy saying that she deserved everything. They were business partners. She worked her butt off, probably way more than he did. When it comes down to it, a marriage is in some ways like a business. What if they both equally work? Yes, I consider holding down the household, birthing children, changing diapers, to be hard work. The partner who stays home to do that while the other one goes outside of the home to earn money is enabling their partner to have that outside job. But it is kind of interesting to see the thoughts of men, and let those kind of things come out naturally instead of him heavily screening. You can make the contract anyway you want it, within reason. Make a prenuptial agreement or an antenuptial agreement, if it will set would set you at ease. I have my freedom, go out when I want, travel when I want and have the friends that I want. It would take such a special man to wedge his way into my life. I get my social needs from my friends. I date different types of men because if you commit to one they lack what another man can offer. She was not being hostile towards men at all. Women in general can definitely find more sexual partners than most me in general. Also, most women get even more bored in monogamic relationships than men. Just the reality, not something that makes the female gender the superior gender, where did you get it from? Because they have those relationships with other men. Sexual relationships between men and women are equal because they are having them with each other. Then it would just mean there are more lesbians, than gay men. There probably are a lot more bi-sexual women, so that might make sense. Twist it any which way you want but these are facts. I have conversed with over a million people in my lifetime and even in conversations on this very topic, they reinforce the fact that men are more Independent. I am considered more soft hearted and sensitive than most men as The Sound Of Music is my favourite Movie lol TRUE ; however, I rather stay single than be loved for my money and swim through the waves of drama and conditions laid down by the opposite sex. One major thing occurred decades ago that caused this chaotic problem we have today and frankly, I am not going there because if I do YOU and other women will deny it or twist it to serve your illogical self- needs to be right. I am a single 31 yr old woman, and I completely agree with this article. Yes, both my grandmothers were married, but both my grandfathers cheated. One of those grandfathers never even lived in the home with his wife and children. Now, we have to find new main purposes for wanting to be married. I personally just want great sex and someone to travel with on occasion; everything else I can pretty much do myself. I definitely struggle with finding my motivation in going through the dating process to find a long term mate. My ex-husband was full of many conditions and drama. I am a very non drama person, and too easy going to have all sorts of crazy conditions on a man, yet he accused me of being the one full of drama. How do you tell who is correct? His boss and all his coworkers said he was full of drama at work all the time. That makes me think that a lot of these guys who are accusing women of being the ones full of drama are actually the male drama creators themselves. Do you guys come here for any other reasons other than than to bash women? Ever since my divorce two years ago, I was able to start a side business, I have two career jobs now, my finances greatly improved, no kids of my own, brand new house, sports car, life is so much better and easier without being in a relationship or a woman that makes you miserable!! I am perfectly content with my life now. Being divorced was the greatest gift my cheating ass ungrateful ex wife ever gave me. Dont do it fellas, marriage this day and age is a freakin joke… These females today with their absurd and unrealistic expectations and conditions but wants a man to accept them with unconditional love and understanding. I refuse to live a life based on double standards. I rather just date here and there and live my life and accomplish my goals without interference. Is that like saying because one black guy robbed a bank, all black guys are going to rob a bank? Or that one white guy shaved his head and got an Nazi swastika tattooed on his scalp, that all white people are Nazis? Please be aware that the shoe can also be on the other foot. The same can be said about my ex. He got mad at the smallest little things, and always wanted too much from me, meanwhile constantly keeping score. I worked really hard to try to get a business going, my solo law practice. It required many hours of my time, and he knew this before we got married. He was unreasonable in his demands. It goes both ways. Neither gender has the Monopoly on assholes. We all have our differences. Heal your heart, and open it up so that one day you might find the happiness that you need. Perhaps their partner has become non-communicative, hyper critical or unaffectionate. If she cheats under those circumstances, and I am not saying that is the right way to deal with marital unhappiness, it is not because she was unhappy with monogamy. She was dissatisfied with the relationship and the cheating was a symptom of that. An uncommitted sexual encounter, or a string of uncommitted sexual encounters is no comfort to a woman who desires a boyfriend or a husband. That is the audience that Evan is catering to. I have one sister who dearly loves being married, and is married to a man who dearly loves being married. I have another sister who hates being in any kind of relationship. Personally, I love it. I love having a partner to build a life together equally, and share activities with. I was just noticing today driving out of my property, how nice it would be to have someone to share time seeding the road Frontage area near my mailbox, and throwing out straw as cover until the rye grass seeds take root. These are things just a casual boyfriend is not going to help me with. My ex would have liked doing things like that together with me, except his bipolar disorder stood in the way. We can go to the John Deere tractor place together and ooh and awe all over those pretty big green machines. I know plenty of guys who love to ride horses, and they enter roping contest from horseback. I know plenty of women who love to fish, hunt, and four-wheel ride through the mud. You just need to set your priorities in what qualities you want in a woman. Do you want a woman you have something in common with, or do you want a woman who just looks pretty and sexy, and sex is the only interest you have in her? It sounds like you are looking for a handyman, not a boyfriend! They do not live together and each have their own homes. Their spouses died years ago. She has been managing her own home for years, but she expects the boyfriend to help her with almost everything that has to do with the household and the lawn. I could see asking for help to a certain extent, but her expectations seem unreasonable. I was responding to Jim Hampton, who said that men and women have absolutely nothing in common other than sex. I was merely using an example about the many things that men and women certainly could have in common. You are being sexist, also. If she was expecting him to come over there and do all that stuff for nothing, that would be wrong. Maybe she goes over there and help him paint the baseboards on his house. Maybe she goes over there and trims the hedges. Helping out is fine, but her expectation is that everything she undertakes is also his responsibility. My posts were response to Jim Hampton, who seem to be implying that no woman ever has anything in common with a man except for sex. Maybe that description fits you. It does not fit me. My man and I would be fighting over who gets to drive the skid steer. And people sometimes get married instead of only dating. Not only does a woman risk more physically, emotionally and socially with casual sex, she also is less likely to enjoy it as much. Someone mentioned the more difficult to achieve female orgasm…. Combined with the risk of pregnancy and social shaming, a committed, regular partner is also preferred. Even desire for children is shrinking as women have more alternatives and social pressure lessens. Since men can have casual sex with almost no consequences they can even be deadbeat dads should pregnancy occur , then that removes much desire for a romantic relationship. Now that women are not property to use and abuse, the marriage deal is not greatly slanted to their favor, so why should they bother? Only those who want spawn and the religious have motivations. And this last bit is why men should never get married, because the very part of you that matters the most, your sexuality, gets neglected first. Women as a group need to do some hard introspecting, have the courage to ask some hard questions about their skewed value systems, and come back with a new understanding of what makes a relationship tick for a man. I find casual sex to be repulsive for the same reasons you mentioned. Celibacy is the better alternative, when no committed partner is available. The original article itself is very revealing: Generally, men have lower standards than women. I know their stories. They were lonely, got tired of it and settled for the first woman they found. So you see, EMK, sometimes pickiness is a good thing, in the sense of waiting until you meet someone who really gets you going. For most, it is likely about lack of sex. I was just talking with a friend who is 31. He is very happy with his girl, except for one thing. He said it ranges from once per week to once per month. He is a good looking guy, and has had no trouble getting women, but he is at the age that he wants to get serious. I see this relationship as a disaster, because if she is already this out of synch with him, imagine once they have been married a few years. It more often has to be the right guy, at the right time. That was the point about men being less selective about sexual partners. MOST women have more chances for sex. Less attractive women have to make their availability more obvious. Some even have to become the aggressive partner. And the truth is, even less attractive women would have more opportunities offered by men, but men have learned that most women will say no. So, my point stands. Unfortunately, I want steak. But women have more to lose. Also, men can get less selective about partners, too. I know of many elderly widows who would happy to have nice young thing for one night. It is equally unappealing for women when old men want 1 night with a 25 y. Your reply to this article is complete bullshit. You replied to an article that concludes men are happier single. As it happens, this particular article makes no such claim. That habit of women is another reason men do not hate being single as much as men. Right on the target! All ya gotta do, is look! We outed this one, girls! Already women are dominating virtually in every sector, throwing the men like trash and spitting on them, yet not satisfied, this is a worrying trend. I just feel bad for them. I am a male 58 years old and having been married I was much happier being single because women want to change you and take away everything you love. My current wife knows I do whatever I want within reason that is why I own another home myself and have a nice red muscle car in the drive way. I will NEVER let a woman try to change me or control me in anyway! If a man is single all he has to do is go to mustang ranch to get sex and if he wants companionship get a dog they are much more loyal! I see all these women on dating sites saying what they want but offering nothing in return! Women are so full of themselves now days! Practically everything you said, she would say the same thing in the inverse about men. What you say about women trying to take things away from men can also be true in the inverse. My now ex-husband tried to take everything away that I loved during our marriage. He even forbid me to step one foot inside of my house of worship. They all want this fantasy pornstar woman that will agree to do any sexual act that the men want. Just because I think much of what is written here is jibberish and have expressed it in a certain tone, does not give you enough to say you know very much about me. At this point, most of the men I meet are self centered. I only seek sex for my enjoyment. This is a relationship blog, for women, and those men interested in finding a long-term relationship. You can find posts of mine intended to provoke discussion; you can also find some where I offered kind words and empathy to a female poster struggling with dating, and relationships. In any case, Evan can ban me any time; YOU, however, cannot. It seems the only men that are likely to get into a relationship are the less attractive men. That we must settle for Less in order to have a long term relationship. Sad that this article seems SO true in my experience. The fact is, a man can quite literally buy sex, if and when he wants, with the quality of the sex and the woman providing it limited only by his bankroll. See how that works? Men with our attitude get these types of men triggered, lol! Much of the content in your recent post is not objectionable. It is your delivery. You are the one with the attitude that is inappropriate here, not Aurora. If you could communicate a similar thought process, while doing it in a more respectful way, I would welcome you. Never had my foot in my mouth. I have had more men after me than any guy is going to muster up any dy of the week and on that note I am not desperate because I have way more options. But the trouble is those men in the restaurant are usually with someone who I imagined might be their wife or long-term partner. These men need to be more polite to their partner. I am absolutely not interested in a married man. Most men I meet have quite wonderful personalities. And yes, I also have a higher libido than anyone man can keep up with. I say this jokingly, but do you think saltpeter would work on women? Not to mention are far more selfish when it comes to relationships and having a family etc. Since they also know they control relationships and sex, they tend to be far more arrogant than men. Men are also more likely to give most women a chance for something to develop in terms of a relationship, whether the woman is rich, poor, cleaner etc. The same cannot be said for women. I have seen it numerous times personally in my relationships, as well as friends and family. Every study I have ever read on the subject says men cheat more. Write your own article if your so knowledgable on the subject. Girls think to much aswell, overthink everything, they think themselves into a bad mood or into a problem when in reality there is no problems, I agree with what was said, films like the notebook and p. I think men seem happier single than women are. I think men take more time about picking their girlfriends, therefore are more happy with them. Not all men have hobbies, either. Many women do have hobbies. When I had a hobby, my whole marriage was spent with my husband trying to make me give up every hobby that I had. What I really see is going on here is that somebody might have a relationship problem, and not be able to see the situation from any other vantage point than their own. They are also 3 times more likely to commit suicide than single men and financially live poorer lives than single men. So it appears marriage is good for men but divorce is a disaster…. Only problem is almost half of all marriages end in divorce and 70% of divorces are initiated by women and the overwhelming these divorces are no fault divorces, as in there was no cheating or abuse…just unreconcilable difference. Its a tricky one. That skews whatever numbers or percentages they say on who initiates a divorce. I am an attorney. There is pressure to keep bad behavior put of divorce papers. It is bad for the kids, who will ome day read them, as they are public record. Is that what you call a healthy relationship? Again, if you think that makes me anti-male, it would Jen very silly for me to take you seriously. It is not that she would understand you, but rather she was taught to be more servile to you, as Eastern cultures tend to be more Patriarchal. Please realize that sexualised objectification of East Asian women, with some equating yellow fever to racism, is rooted in colonial ideas of power and submission. Quite distasteful to Asians. I do hope you get over what ever it is that is making you so angry. If you are so anti-relationship and anti-men, why are you on this website????? Me thinks the lady doth protest to much. How is this somehow bad for men? Also, pre-feminist movement, it was an absolute given that if a fellow started screwing around on the side he would be on the hook for alimony. Now, since we have to hold our own jobs anyway, it is unlikely that any support would be provided after a divorce. Thank heavens for cats and ice cream because they provide much more comfort and support than the current crop of baby-men. The entirety of this article expresses that men have requirements for a stable relationship. With respect… Men created the Declaration of Independence, the Mona Lisa, music, science, math, the bill of rights, fought for you, died for you. All you can do is complain it seems. In short we created this world and we have the power to end it. So be quiet and recognize free speech. A small minority of extremely intelligent men created everything and a few women despite what you want to believe. Never ran a company or a country, never cured a disease. Man did not create the world. Men who have been creative have done so for the most part, in the time periods you are referencing, because a woman was taking care of his children, food and dirty underwear. You are conveniently passing over women like Joan of Arc, Madame Curie and Catherine the Great, to name a few. You are also buying into the idea that many ideas stolen from women, like the structure of DNA, rightfully belong to men. This is part of the problem, not the solution. But perhaps you should follow your own advice. And bother to see for yourself about the female mathematicians in ancient culture to present. Men who come to my office a divorce attorney take divorces harder than women. The men cry and the women do not. Then when the men come back after child custody modifications, they still seem to be miserable being single again, even years later. Are you not a feminist? Is there something wrong with being a feminist? Happier men enter marriages then stay single 2. Marriage has no effect on men happiness. The implication is simple: Men who are deciding to enter long term relationships are generally more optimistic and happy in life, when compared to those who stay single — but marriage has no effect on their happiness. They are happy regardless. I was happy prior to the marriage and during the first couple of years into the marriage. It is so true about women not wanting sex once they get you! Dry up like a raisin. She filed for divorce. Around 75% of all divorces in America are filed by women. Yeah, I was depressed, caught off guard, sucker punched. Took some time to get over. Do what I want. Go where I want. Burp, fart, scratch in my home without having to be put down! I can go to see a play that I want to see. Dinners with friends without juggling. Just not worth it. By the third to fifth date, women get weird stress! Where do I see this relationship going? Women are to stressed for men. Men have sex to have sex, most women have sex to feel loved. Most women stop feeling loved after marriage because the guy changes and no longer makes any effort to make her feel valuable. Then she stops wanting sex from the guy who no longer makes her feel loved. Then yeah, I would have fun with that too. You women are stress enough…. To be perfectly frank, would I rather he be a non-dad, all else being equal? Yes I think so. I think there are many other similar women out there. A man having 2-3 kids is a bonus. It is not true that women do not want to date single dads. As for foul moods, it works both ways. Not all women are moody, and not all men lack moodiness. If a man has a stronger sex drive than mine, may someone please help him. I may be wrong, but how did they know that, unless someone was masturbating a child. Some man told you exactly what he was feeling and thinking and you told him he was wrong. Well, there you go. I am not going to spend more than a minute with any woman who does that. But, something happens after age 40. After 40, men stop just trying anything to be with a woman. So, the roles become reversed. And, then woman start to pick, and men get to choose who they want to be with. Look at it this way. Remember when all the guys would do anything to be with a pretty girl in high school? Well, now the roles are reversed! I am 50 and I get hit on all the time. So, like young women in their teens and twenties who had so many guys chasing them, and became very picky in who they chose to be with; now, men at this age have many women chasing us. And, we have become picky. We now have the options. He now has so many options; like you probably did when you were young. I can do what I want when I want, with who I want! The other factor on the horizon is MGTOW, after third wave feminism less guys will want to bother with marriage or committed relationships! He was diagnosed with mental illness and there is reason to believe that he was a paedophile. Find out where his funding came from. The state of modern so-called relationships between men and women in the USA has been determined by 3rd wave feminism, corporations, ad agencies, the internet, hollywood programming, and lies aimed at reducing the number of free births. Replacement births from European-Americans are at the lowest recorded. Most men are more unhappy in a relationship. There is so much to worry about with women who are always on edge. Modern women are also far to demanding and needy. I never understood why my wife never wanted me to do things without her. I would try to do things with my guy friends and she would get upset. We still did lots of things together, but always with other couples. There way no guy time. And every girlfriend I had was like that. We might still be together if she had kept some part of her life for herself instead of trying to make us into some kind of siamese twin. I am now divorced and not even sure if I want to date again. I will just hang out with my kids when I have them and go have a beer with my buddies on occasion, the ones that are allowed to see single friends anyway. Once a man has a serious relationship and lives with a girl. He sees the true side of craziness and is always questioning his reason for being their, since the sex everyday has stopped. The emotions are easier to handle if he is getting laid. The honey to do list are completed quicker when sex is still happening. Think about dating a guy that has great communication skills and then one day decide she wants to only communicate once a week. You would think, well this is bullshit. Men NEED to orgasm DAILY. Just like women need to have many conversations. A guy can go to his buddies house and say 5 words that will last for 6 hours. And 4 of those words are hey fucker and latter bitch. Pussy power is real. Men need to feel needed for their strength and penis. Most women simply do not care , as I have commented , female sex drive is far , far lower than the male …due to testosterone levels , however we CAN go without and do not need to orgasm daily , we are not slaves to our sex drives. Thank you for being aware of the male POV , most women are negative towards and dismissive of men. This article is VERY accurate and spot on. Women are way more emotional and have a inner NEED for relationships. They can keep busy with their work, hanging with buddies, activities, etc. Men have greater resourses at 40 than do men at 30. The key for a woman is to take care of themselves, not age too drastically The key for a man is to not be an asshole…. I saw women for what they are in my awkward 20s, when they were hopping from escapade to escapade. Now they see me in my car, and that same age range wants to finally hop to me. And you know what? You can have some of my time, but you will NEVER get my money. I love it when they try though…they try so deliciously hard. Not compared to single women. But single women — and single mothers most of all — DO show up on bottom of those sociological happiness scales. That farce only shows an illegitimate study with huge biases in the sample selection. The sampling procedure was condemned, and that study has been discredited. Also that study was about sexual behavior in men. Stop spreading lies to suit your agenda. Men do not enjoy monogamy more. You leaned on a discredited study, and by doing that you have destroyed your own ethos. BTW I just got a marriage proposal last night from a man who genuinely wants to be monogamous. For the rest of our lives. Calling out someone for being unduly nasty with equal contempt is a measured response. Everyone has an agenda. You had an agenda when you posted your comment. You wanted your voice to be heard while you discredited another. I genuinely hope you and your fiancee have a long and happy life together, but mostly I am intrigued by your power of omniscience. EMK even had an entire thread on the subject of INCELS. The misogynist manosphere is a real thing, but where is the misandrist womanosphere? They make themselves obvious because they use the terminology. Perhaps some men are unfortunately adopting words used by the manosphere. What is the value of adopting that terminology? I can see the value in learning words, for example, from French. As a man I hate being single. And all a woman has to do to have mulitiple sexual partners is put on a little makeup and a miniskirt and heels and every jerk out there will be chasing her. Especially those of us who have lost our hair and looks. In my younger years I thought this it was we women who had to do all the primping, fixing our hair, dieting, etc, and then all men had to do is show up. Boy was I wrong! When I was about 25, I had a conversation with my teenage stepson, and it really opened my eyes. A woman over 35 who wears a mini skirt better darn well be in shape or she looks ridiculous. When I was in my twenties we used to make fun of older women like that, saying that they were Grannies trying to pretend they were teenagers. Not many women my age can, but then I ride horses, flamenco dance, and run several miles each week, on top of being a former Fitness competitor. But do I really want the guys to be chasing after me by the dozens? Even right now as I type this, one of my close, young, guy friends tells me that he really wants to find a girlfriend. He is tired of being single. He said he wishes we were closer in age, b. If wishes were horses we would all be Kings. There is a fix for all this. To add to that I live in the meth belt, and in the Sunbelt. Exercise, take a lot of vitamin C. Oh I forgot, that may involve feelings…. Can you understsnd such depth? Trying to understand many men has been difficult at best. Thanks for the usual statement. It behooves a woman to think like a man so that she can get that relationship. Women are gatekeepers to sex. It behooves men to know what women need to give him sex. Why are you so angry? That anger is going to seep through into your interactions with men. Quality men will stay away from angry women like you. He also commented on your post. What can we do about it? He said that in the past, men and women ha more of a symbiotic relationship. Each had roles to fulfill. Well, as he said, things have changed. He is not actively looking for a woman, so I asked him why, and showed him this article. So if he is going to get into a relationship with a woman, it would have to be on his terms. He says that because of them, he was raised differently than his dad and grandfather. He was raised to be self sufficient. He was raised to not need women. He said that for a man, it is far better to do short term relationships. Longer than short term relationships and he ends up feeling like he has to answer to somebody. If he wants to go for a ride on his motorcycle, he does. If he wants to play some video games with friends, he does. If he wants to watch a football game, he does. He said that the last time he was in a long term relationship, and was living with a woman, he had compromised and other than when she was not home, he had one day a week he could play video games. It was a weeknight and he played a game where he had joined some kind of group, a squad he says, that got together on that night to play this very large video game. The first time he thought they had just shown up. Then the next week another couple of friends. He had played his part talking to the men, and giving up his squad night. Then on the third night, he locked himself in the computer room. He said he had to suffer calls to come join the world of the living. Knows about their families, and through the associated message board sees pictures of their homes, families and whatever else they want to share. A 25 year old study might reflect what his father felt, but not him. She has her things that she does alone, he has things he does alone. One of those things is a video game. She agreed that this was acceptable. But then she started inviting friends over. Not just her friends, which would have been acceptable. No, she invited mutual friends. Husbands and wives who were mutual friends. Thus, courtesy and civility dictates that he would have to forgo the game and join his wife in entertaining their guests. This would be like her and a few of her girlfriends having a night to watch chick flicks, but then having him sabotage it by inviting mutual friends, including men, over to the house. She would seem rude if she ignored her other friends. She took their girls, and poisoned them against him. Still, it seems like most men never really wanted to be in relationships in the first place, and only did so because they were expected to be married. I mean, a guy who probably feels fondness if anything, and can easily drop his partner for a new one. I try to enlighten women, but I think they live in a fairytale where men see them as life-or-death necessities and goddesses. The dating world just resembles something akin to Stockholm to me. I came to EMK after googling something unrelated but man… Feminism has made men get honest and drop the chivalry with their misogyny. Get hobbies, learn to uplift and love other women as sisters, not competition. Nor need to have them screaming at us, as if we were their pets and being manipulated to feel guilty for just being a male. Also, do not blame anyone or anybody. You should have figured the fairy tales are only for kids. My advice for you: be real with yourself. Get over past relationships and lower your expectations. Respect and love yourself. Enjoy life around you and simple be happy, not content. Have an excited and great life. We now live in a full gynocentric society where men are completely disposable cash machines and sperm donors. We are reviled and treated like scum. Ever more men learn these facts early on, and from experiences of other older men having been dumped like garbage on the wayside. Men now have other options, like video games and porn and for many it is the safer option than having to deal with the dangers of women and society at large which are seen as hostile. In the end when the pendulum has swung too far, it will swing bang hard in the opposite direction as is starting to happen now with ultra right revolutions around the world. Asian men have balance in their lives, and live life as an individual. An Asian man, was the only male friend of a woman who worked in a very industrial field, deemed as a male occupation. The American men felt she was an affront to their masculinity , just by her presence. She also had to work harder to have any respect from them as a person. The Western men were in a clique , and would sit in a different area at lunch, they would dominate a certain area of the recreation room which was also used for meals. Too many issues , too many embedded stereotypes. Like I said, those relationship books , have destroyed relations between men and women. Yes, yes, very much so. It seemed like it was getting better, and then it seemed that it was not. There is something going on in Western society that is not going on in the other cultures. I cannot describe exactly what it is, but it also seems to run parallel with the rise of ALT-RT and White Nationalism. I would appreciate input on this phenomenon. This is precisely why I have remained a single man for 52 years and expect to remain so. Men and women being so angry and defensive about something as theoretically fulfilling as loving one another. I have seen family and friends bicker and hate each other until nothing is left of their lives but bitter acrimony. Apparently the current state of society is one of combativeness and selfishness; even the replies here are defensive and accusatorial. I will be damned if I will subject my will onto another person and will absolutely not tolerate being manipulated, coerced or bullied by another person myself. This is why I believe the whole concept of love and relationships is a delusion we create; I have never heard of anyone being truly happy in one, just less miserable. To hell with that. But so many do, then find ways to rationalize their choices. There are lots of ways both genders can learn and improve the relationships they have or want… Dr. Phil and men like him get that. They learn to know it has benefits for them as well, which it certainly does. Feminist ideas are the ones that have challenged women not just to change and grow and learn how to use and share power with men. It has challenged women to also learn equality without responsibility is a lie. I do get tired of hearing simple-minded rants being repeated so often and I feel for both men and women who want to love but keep making the same mistakes over and over. Men know some stuff. Women know some stuff. Those of us willing to learn from one another win. The haters, the compulsive arguers only end up along and lonely or worse being with the wrong person and being lonely. I read good books by men and women and those who close themselves off come up short. My husband is as smart and strong as I am and we have something very good and work to take care of it. We think a lot alike but are still very different types of personalities. We accept one another but have both changed for the relationship. We still like each other, find each other interesting and trust each other a lot. My husband who was my boyfriend for 25 years has a great sense of humor and mine has sharpened from being around him. I hope some of the open-minded readers on this will not give up and learn from both men and women, but the wiser ones. Men with open minds are changing just as smarter, healthier women have been. The balancing beam between men and women, Men have moved some from the center of the beam do to the 3rd wave Feminism, but women are at the end of the beam. Men will only move farther away from center as women stay at the end of the beam. The trades that men and women once had are gone and we end up with both saying, what do I need you for? Maybe some people get unreasonable with things on either end, but human rights and efforts to throw in some common sense on how to treat folks are reasonable. We are far more informed as to what drives women than you probably are yourselves!! As Newton stated every action has …………….!! That opposite action is just starting to gain momentum…. I think Radical Feminists should ask the same question Johny Rotten asked the audience at the final Sex Pistols gig!! These men turn out feminized or Gay. We are lacking male role models. Thank You Feminism and the Feminism controlled Government for the destruction of the relationship of men and women. Is it part of a plan? One more example of how I a female am more masculine when it comes to relationships. My first date last night with a recently divorced 54 year old left me ambivalent. He is done caring about his career, has tons of hobbies and interests he wants a women to adopt, he wants a women to fill up his life. I want a relationship that is a blend of two people. Women have vastly higher numbers of dating options, fall in love faster and harder, and grieve more when relationships end. Read the Kinsey 25 year study. Men are actually happiest 15 years into a relationship. Women are culturally allowed to discuss relationships more, which is unfortunate. Probably has something to do with why men take longer to get over them. Oh…wait…maybe we should consult the actual numbers. Men also seem more willing to seek partners from other countries. Men are also far more willing to date a single parent. Sorry Jen, the numbers do not support you your hypothesis. If you want to redo my work, feel free. But again, the numbers do not tell the whole story. These are only the numbers of Americans available to date, not the numbers of who you would WANT to date. While there are slightly more men than women in the 30 to 49 age range, more men are likely to have criminal records. More men are likely to have a restraining order on their record. More men are likely to be alcoholics. More men are likely to be high school drop outs. More men are likely to not have a college degree. More men are likely to be in the military, stationed overseas. More men are likely to be truck drivers who spend extended periods of time away from home, such as my neighbor who is only home 2 days then gone for 12. More men are likely to work on cargo ships, spending even more time away from home. These factors may or may not affect a woman. For instance some women may have no problem dating that truck driver who is only available to her 2 days ever 2 weeks. Some women may forgive a criminal record. But the point is made. About three-quarters 77 percent had spouses whose ages were within 5 years of one another compared with two-thirds 68 percent of opposite-sex cohabiters and 60 percent of same-sex couples. Same-sex couples were less similar in age: one-fifth of the couples 21 percent had a partner who was at least 10 years older than the other, twice as high as opposite-sex married couples. I am not trying to be insulting, but in my life time I have not met too many men that do that. The men that I know have so many silly stuff to focus on, including their careers than to be thinking about an ex-girlfriend. In this day and age, I care more about working hard to move up in the world, than about ex-girlfriends. I work hard and on my days off, hang out with my friends and keep up with sports. Obviously we still have sexual needs and we do find women to hook up with. However, if you are not successful in the work department, you will not get much love from women. What you really want is a man who will listen, is confident, centered and strong and will make you feel safe. You have modeled yourself into what you deem to be a Utopian woman and have since begun to believe that men have followed suit with your fabricated world. Being full of shit is one thing. I am 52 and ideally i would want to find a good women who accepts me the way I am and we live a very relaxed and fun life. I care about everything. My child, my career, my friends, etc. I am not consumed by them but I care about them. It is said that married men live longer. I am not sure if that is still true. In just about every relationship that I have had, including my marriage, the woman always wanted me to be different. I have never wanted anyone to change. I am not happier being single necessarily but at least I can just be me. Men have lower expenses on clothing, make up, grooming, and a slew of other things. Thus, most men do not have the same financial incentives to get married than women do. Women used to treat even the most average man like a king. He would come home from a long day at work with dinner on the table, a clean house, and kids picked up from school. The wife was the ultimate support system while the husband slaved away paying the bills. Instead they are more likely to divorce you and take half your stuff. So again I beg the question. Over 50% of marriages fail and in the majority of divorce cases, the favor is given to the woman. She collects the alimony and the kids. I would love to see what would happen if regulated prostitution was legal in the US like in Amsterdam. He is saying that there was a time when men did want women for more than sex. He is saying that today, women are just too much of a liability. I spent 20 years in the Navy and I can assure you of one thing…there is a huge difference between American women and women from other countries. We American men have taken not of that. Expect to see more marriages with foreign brides. Oh, I know, the stereotype is that those women are just looking for citizenship. No, they re looking for love. The 2011 Census was quite revealing. If an American man marries a foreigner, he has a 20% chance of ending up divorced, but if he marries an American woman, he has a near 60% chance of ending up divorced. One woman I know said that those women are just gold diggers. Most of the men they marry are men of modest means. Even enlisted men with no college, and many of the women have college degrees. American women tend to see the enlisted man as a less desirable option. Here, in the U. I was just reading on another site where a woman was somewhat happy for her mom who in her 50s finally found a man. I am done with American women, and I am helping many of my single friends to see the light. Most are now looking for wives in other countries. Some have already found wives. Almost all of them feel overwhelmed by the positive response they get from these women, and how kindly they treat us. Also, most of my friends are very happy that these women seem more youthful than their years suggest. For decades, men were told to be more like women, to learn how to communicate, and learn how to be supportive. We men were told to learn to do our laundry. Sex is the only thing that we need women for…unless you are gay. We can handle everything that must be done in the house. Our male friends are supportive and will lend us an ear when we need to talk about something, and being male, they understand where we are coming from. So what do we need women for? They are too demanding. American women are anyway. They want to talk about how Sally told them that Jenny said the Mark said something bad to Julie and now Julie is mad. I would rather hear fingernails on a chalkboard. If they have kids already, expect to take second place in their heart. No way she will love you more than her own child. Been there, done that, did not like. I might consider a woman who has kids that are grown and out of the house. For some women, their children moving on with their own lives allows them to see that she is not number one in their hearts…their new boyfriend, or children are. This can free her to devote enough love, attention and respect to the man in her life. Do I like to play video games? Yes Do I want to be given crap about it…ever? Keep it to yourself. Better yet, go cry to your friends about it and damage our relationship even more. See, I like video games…I DO NOT like TV. Video games, I participate actively in, TV is mind numbingly boring. Unless it is something good such as a football game, a history documentary, or something regarding science. But in my experience, the American women I dated or married…hated those with a passion. They want to watch the latest night time SOAP, unREALITY TV, sitcoms, or Lifetime movie. Thanks but no thanks. They want to transform me into what they want through denial of sex, love, affection and respect. In time, we have come to actually love being single. I DO NOT want an American woman messing up the happiness I have found. If I do decide to marry, it will be with a woman who is not American. I too feel like bioject. If prostitution were legal and safe, I would opt for getting my sexual fulfillment from a prostitute rather than having a relationship with a woman. Not because I am a misogynist. It is because I already can fill my appetite for relationships with friends. And I get to keep my freedom too. The only thing missing in my life is the fulfillment of my sexual appetite. I am not attracted to men sexually. I am attracted to women sexually. I think that is true for both sexes though. I think women would rather just have one-night stands with men than be in a relationship with a man that makes her miserable. The main difference is that I think majority of women have way higher expectations from a man than a man has from a woman. Most men just want a woman who is nice, who they get along with, who is mildly attractive, and who is grateful for the things he gives or does for her. Additionally, I think more women are willing to trade-up than men. Speaking in numbers, most men I meet are more committed than women. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that many women realize it is easy to just ditch their relationships and find someone else. Many women leverage their sexuality for a more popular and financially well off man. I can say what you said in your post, Evan, is very inline with most men I meet. I am a single man and prefer to be single and one of the main reasons is that none of the women I ever dated contributed anything to me that makes it worth while, the commitment, troubles, nagging and limited freedoms…. But the fact is that an increasingly great deal of men I talk to feel the same. More men like Bioject and friends of mine feel there is no advantage about being in a relationship with a woman nowadays for many guys. Some might still find something that works but they are becoming the exception and not the rule. Its a state of denial the modern gender development is in. Relationships are just not the way of the future anymore in the current trends, there is no point defending it. It will just spark more resistance and arguments. If you choose old fashion marriage then do it, if you choose to be gay, then do it.. If you choose to stay single and independent and it works for you then do it and its not any bodies business why you do it, or nobodies position to try and diagnose you with a disorder for making your own choices. For a person to claim to be an expert and write one single theory to why a man would choose to be single is absurd. It makes as much sense as to explain why people go to church…you can get endless of different reasons depending on the individual. But just as no person can cast their ideal of religion upon you, so can no person cast their sexuality or traditions on you. Its personal choices we all are entitled too. A free and liberated world applies to men as much as to women, to make choices that works best for us according to our social environment which women are as responsible for creating as men are. I have been a tomboy all of my life, so I enjoyed things like video games, football and basketball games, paintball, etc. Evan, I loved your article it gave me points to consider. Bioproject and RustyLH you made some very valid points as well. The point is this: marriage is no longer something to aspire to. Why should men want to get married at all? However, I do have to issue a few factual correctives: 1. Why should men want to get married at all? To sum up, happily married men are the happiest people of all. They make more money. They live longer lives. They are more fulfilled. Shall I go on? How many of that 95% are divorced, I wonder. Personally, I prefer motorcycles and firearms. That was the very first point of contention: money. That alone tells me all I need to know. Your response, however was very…illuminating. It was never as high as the mythical 50%. I am an immigration professional. You said: …there is a huge difference between American women and women from other countries. I know many women from other countries who are under repressive governments and cultures, or in poverty. Once they trick the American guy into marrying them, and get established, things changed. I have seen it over and over. Next thing ya know, she has duped the poor American dum dum into a fight. She files a police report. Then she files for a U Visa or for benefits under VAWA, as a victim of DV. But what I have also observed, is that there seems to be a common thread among this. The men involved might actually be abusers. They often seem very misogynistic. You talk like women are still your property. No wonder you people have to pay for sex and order wives off the internet like property. Your purchased wives are not looking for love, sorry. You are the kind of people who complain black people and other people have become too uppity for wanting livable wages. The 2011 Census proved your statements false. If I marry an American woman I have about a 60% chance of ending up divorced. If I marry a woman from another country, that drops to a 20% chance. Second, no bride is purchased. They are met on simple online dating sites, such as BrazilCupid. Because they charge a subscription fee, any foreign woman you meet there is considered a mail order bride. Next, for these women to get approved to come to this country, they must pass a criminal background check. Part of the International Marriage Brokers Regulation Act, or IMBRA. The process is so brutal, you must hire an attorney to navigate the minefield. Do not hire one at your own peril. The man bringing a woman here will have to prove that he is financially stable. That is on top of the thousands of dollars you must spend on everything else including the lawyer. Other places include Japan, Korea, China, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Singapore, Ukraine, Russia, etc… Even in the countries with the lesser economies, it is not the dirt poor farmer girl, or homeless person that is looking for a husband, it is mostly the college educated, with a career. They can afford computers and the internet. These women are just gold diggers. They are just looking to improve their situation. Let me know when that is not typically the case with American women. Let me know when women dig the guy working the counter at McDonalds. Yes, just like American women these women are looking for a man that can provide stability and security. The fact is, these women are looking for love. Most of them anyway. Most will have to learn English. Most are college educated but will have to either retake a significant portion of their classes, or pass certification exams, meaning they must learn the language first. I know a woman from Mexico who was a doctor there. She moved here because this is where her ex husband lives and he has custody of their daughter. She is struggling with English, but learning. As soon as she can learn it, she will be able to take some certification exams and then start working as a general practitioner. But here is something to think about. If you find yourself totally disgruntled with American men, why not do the same thing. Most relationships come from one of two methods. You join a dating site, such as BrazilCupid. They are much like that millionaire matchmaker Patty something or other. You pay them a lot of money, and they find women that want to find a husband. You seem to hate any hint of sympathy for men in the modern dating scene, in short you lack empathy miss. Because chances are at one point or another we made the mistake of laying down with a girl like Jen. It scared the shit out of us at the same time making us sick to our stomach that this is what we are left with. The original feminists from way back in the day. Would paddle the asses of these little hypocrites of today then get rid of any law that tried to stop them. Not carrying who they offend in the process. Plus, Jen, someone preferring to pay for sex has nothing to do with thinking a woman is property or being racist. If women had more to offer men would not have cared about ordering women over the net and spend money if its free. The pure reason they do it is the proof that that what is free is not worth the hassle. He have more to loose than to gain from normal relationships. Increasing amount of men realize these days that not only can they go without women, but life works so much better without women. Im 35 and never been married or have kids and the older I get the more I realize I did the right thing and I must keep it like that. I pay for almost ALL of them. When will a woman hold the door open for me. Or carry my tactical bag when I go to the gun range? And then all the drama, often debt, etc. My 401K and IRA are fully funded. Any sensible man knows women in the Western world bring little to the table that makes marriage pallatable or worthwhile. I stopped going after American women many years ago. Do not lose hope brother. We live in a big world and traditional values are practices and encouraged in many other countries. Based on this, the King never really valued the relationship, personality, or companionship of any specific female, but really just the labor that could have theoretically come from any willing attractive female subject. If what made the King feel awesome was this domestic labor but he had to financially support her, it would seem that the King would be even happier now that women have careers too and still do the majority of housework and child rearing — essentially giving him free labor and making having children a possibility. Based on this logic, it would seem that women have even more to offer men these days than ever before: we bring significant income to the household, which was not the case back in the day, plus we will cook, clean, and raise kids at least 50% of the time, if not more. I would say that men now offer much less to women. There is no option for total support, just more domestic work and waning relationship value with someone that now openly prefers to act like a teenager instead of our hero. That was one hell of a post, great logic. And second, living together is super hard. We all live in the 21st Century. We live in a Western Culture where Gals and Guys are to be given equal opportunities in their individual life choices. Why should a guy contort his body and mind to make a gal happy? Why should a gal contort her body and mind to make a guy happy? We all offer much less to each other as our riles have become intertwined. Men can cook, clean the house, change diapers, take care of the laundry, grocery shopping, etc. Women can mow the lawn, repair electronics, fix a flat tire, jump start the car, etc. End of the day, their are only 3 identifiable differenceso between us and those are just body parts. This may sound harsh but it is true. Today both have to work 40-60 hour week to pay the bills, mortgage and to raise kids on top of that. The day women take the same risk, take the same hard and dirty jobs out in the rain, high on in the air on construction sites, risking their lives the pay gap will not be there in favor of men anymore. When you control for the risky work and more hours men work, women effectively earn more in USA than men for the same work Women have more degrees than men now, have more employment than men in the USA and during the recession 80% of job losses was male positions that was closed. Yet men value them selves by their income and ability to earn and support a family, women value men for the very same function. Still after the gender equality women still expect men to pay for dates, men still must drive the nice car and buy the expensive engagement ring. When a woman have a baby the man must still mostly be the one working so that she can stay at home looking after the baby, thus her income is hers, his income is his and hers, yet his income must be equal to hers, leaving her in the privileged position. Women in relationships mostly have two incomes, his and hers, men have one income, his or half of his. I know you going to try to overthrow this with a few exceptions where women are the providers but it does not really affect the stats that much though. During the recession it was well observed as men loose their jobs, the marriages falling apart and the women go off on their own, he was only good enough as a man as long as he could earn and provide. Men are still only financial object to many women and the recession proved it. Men coming on here to tell women interested in finding relationships that lead to marriage that women are worthless except to use for sex…. This is one bitter man posting hate and getting attention. I think MRAs and feminists spend a lot of time hating the opposite sex, and I think any objective observer would agree. MRA and feminist have much in common. How can you stand for equality if you do not allow MRA to seek equality for men in areas where they lack equality? That is called hypocrisy. If you want to be respected by the average male out there, you need to snap out of the feminist mentality which is not the same as gender equality, its the same as feminist defined gender equality which are two different things. Few men would buy into your bias. The fact is that I am not here to tell you what you want to hear. But you can only find an imaginary man in that imaginary world. I withdraw from MRAs cause they are really no good a lot of idiots and hateful guys. But feminist do set the world in to a better direction of development by for, you cannot compare it. But despite the common ground MRAs and feminism often share feminism is by far the better road. However it does not change my view on relationships as it formed with my own experiences. But hey many feminists also prefer to be single so I dont see the problem really. If feminists wanted true equality they would let MRA discuss things. Look at Milo who have been silence from feminists and now even with black lives matter groupies. Feminists motive is to silence men not to have equality among the sex. Many of us are sharing our first hand experiences. Do we sound frustrated, irritated and at times resentful? We have been broken, whipped, financially ruined. We have been slap around by a system that in our minds and opinions has and is continuing to work against us. Having read through all of the postings, a pattern or profile has been formed from these. That having been said, if one cannot extend grace and forgiveness toward others, then yes, you are better off remaining single. And without friends and family. Human beings are flawed, sinful creatures who are imperfect. Even people with the best of intentions will fail you at least unintentionally. Nobody will ever be able to make up for the wrongs of the past. As do men, women respond better to encouragement and edification, not tearing down. If you want to motivate people toward positive change, a spirit of grace will do that, not a critical, angry spirit. You may have every right to be angry but no one else is obligated to internalize your anger. But to come on here and and express derision and contempt for others, then when called bitter, deny it is just passive aggressive behavior. I think its more your own feeling you observe because I dont see that. Sam P presented facts, the facts only said half of the truth, the half that supports feminist theory, I carry knowlaged about many other facts that changes the bias picture she presented. With that being said I must admit, men can be real pricks and I include myself but men are not stupid. Facts are very selective, we can choose what data we want and how we want to represent it, this is what Sam P did, what Julie try to defend and what I did to respond with. Selective sampling is the deliberate skewing of facts. Feminists are very good at it, I can show how good MRAs are with it as well. I ran circles around many of the men andI did my job well. I understand why women do not even get hired for these jobs, when they often want them, except for the constant harrassment. It still goes on. I absolutely hate being single, because I love giving love to women! I love the hand holding, the intimacy, the smiles and the kisses, the communication and playful ways a woman acts. Being single is very heart wrenching. I love having a woman I can cuddle up with and fall asleep with at night! But, I have to agree with some of the expectations of women, most of the time they are things I dont meet, and I miss out on great love opportunities. Many men grew up not knowing how to cook, or do their own laundry, so they NEEDED a woman. Not so anymore, as we tossed those traditional ideas out. Now, today most men know how to cook for themselves, and in my experience, some men are fantastic cooks. The point is that there was a time when being married meant security to a man. Today, many men see marriage as a dangerous minefield. And once again, all one need do is look at the current trends. Who reads what, who watches what, and who seeks out advice on how to get into relationships, and who does not. People do read about what interests them. People turn the channel until they find something that interests them. People also seek out professional help when they need it. In all of these things, most women are focused on relationships, most men are not. There is a reason that when doing research papers in psychology class, you had to include the date of any research when you cited it in your paper. The reason is because it is understood that what was true 25 years ago is not necessarily true today. Plus, new research often reveals flaws in the methodology of older research, since psychology is actually a very young science. So while the trend today is that men desire a relationship less than women do, that does not change the fact that there are some men that do want a relationship very much, and some women who do not. But overall, more women do want one than men. I do think that if sex were not as available outside of a marriage, more men would rethink their priorities, and would desire a relationship. Women and men are so different and women need to realize that what men want and need is so different then what we do. Once you accept this, it becomes easy. When many of the things that women need are satisfied within the context of other great relationships and we are fulfilled and happy, a relationship with a man is the icing on the cake. I know it can seem depressing, but I actually found it pretty funny the way you wrote it Evan. And when their guy friends start getting hitched and they find themselves to be the Last of the Mohicans, being single really starts to suck for them! And then they go after it. As a woman, I just needed to figure out how to find those guys. Your equalitarian notions are causing you to imply men want what women want. Men long for peace and quiet. Our friendships last decades. The reality is I can get sex anytime I want, because women are fine with ONS and short-term relationships. All I care about is that women choose men who value them. As a guy who thinks women are only good for sex, you would not be a prime candidate for any of my readers as a partner. I assure you, with your outlook on things, no one here really cares whether you are in their dating pool. LOL…think about it, its very logical and not all that difficult to understand. This does not mean I say women are only good for sex, this means that I have no need in a women other than that because all my needs are already fulfilled without women. You blame me for the fact that women have nothing good to offer me in a relationship besides sex, if women had more to offer then I would see more value in them, but after countless relationships and dates I can say i found none that I can say I have a need for. There is nothing not even an experience I can point to to say she made it all worth my while to make the sacrifices I have made up to now. The logic is simple, if you are an idiot with only a lot of money to show then that all people will see in you, if you have nothing than the a ability to bake nice cookies, then the parents will bring their kids to you for cookies because its all you have to offer. Women do the same, they see the fact that they have looks and sex-appeal as the reason men must entertain them, pay for everything, take their verbal abuse, meet their expectations, be objectified as their romance, financial and security objects…gosh any man who take all that desperately only need sex. In my experience women are not all that bad at once but a grey scale between all that bad and just no point to have around. But its not my fault that women only have sex to offer, its up to them what they have to offer. Some women are bad in bed, but good cooks, a guy who can barely boil a egg will only see her for her ability to make good food, as the most valuable part of her, a women who is good in bed and cook good food, her husband will see her for her ability to cook and good sex…the point is, people see in you what you have to offer, if guys only see sex in women then that is all women have to offer that guys still need. The point is if I can do everything for myself what women could do for a man and do it in away that i like, if i have good friends who give me better emotional support than any women i ever dated, if I have friends who contribute more to making the friendship work than what any woman ever contributed, if i have friends I have more in common with than any women I ever dated without using me only for my money and trying to rule my life, then why on earth would I tie myself in a relationship with a woman?. Most of my friends would answer it like…hey you forgot the sex…that can be a reason to put up with that. Its all women have to offer which guys still have a need for. Gosh must I appreciate that? LOL Now you can pick the women side in every argument as you say. But for most guys will not take you seriously and that in a way means the advice you give women is kinda useless because many guys do not agree with it and women buy everything you say because it makes them feel good, but its kinda useless because its not entirely accurate. But no I never said women are only good for sex, I said sex is all women have to positively contribute which men have still a need for. There is a big difference and it is kinda generalized so its not absolute for every situation. But its a growing trend that women become increasingly useless for men for the sake of relationships. I would not have said this if I thought I was the only person seeing this, but I am surrouned by guys who would agree with me, because its not the first time I talk about this. So you can argue call me names and advise your women not to date me, please do! We all choose our own roads in life. You are stating that you want to remain single, and fine, nobody would disagree with your freedom to do that. It is, however, understood that most female readers — not all — are looking for a long term relationship that could lead to marriage. I have never seen him judge anyone for doing that, but it seems as a dating coach, he would not be doing his due diligence to suggest that someone aim at target and miss on purpose. You started asking me a question and ended asking Evan a question. Maybe just clarify that if you are seeking my response. Is Evan single male and not having a problem with it? Any person who is not a man who choose to stay single will be guessing when they try to answer this topic. Who would know better why a guy likes being single than a guy who likes being single? But for some reason people who never experienced it , never made that conscious decision knows better only because the audience like what they hear. So before you read to much about what I write first ask the question if you want to hear what is real in the life of someone who choose to be single, who lives it or hear what makes you happy and feel good? No guy who loves dating and love his married life can really say why a man prefer to be single, unless he get his clues from other mainstream sources written by people who probably also is not a single man who prefer to be single.

Avoid it at all costs. Do men actually ENJOY the endless tedium and stress of going on a string of disappointing dates. It is said that married men live longer. This is not to say that all men are u being single nor all women miserable. It is sad that the potential of women and girls are being limited worldwide because they were not born with a penis instead. Essentially, he thinks that it is a good idea to let her lead the way and make her u like she is in the position of power over him. As men age up, they tend to date down in age. Moral—you must date all you can under 40, after that the prospect pool is small and not promising.

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